Al-Monitor carried out an interview with a former political prisoner and award-winning lawyer, Mahienour el-Massry. Mahienour el-Massry has been arrested and detained twice since 2013, and was released in August 2016 after serving 15 months in prison after her second arrest. In the interview, Massry spoke about her experience in prison.
The text of the interview is as follows:
Al-Monitor: How much time did you spend in prison?
Massry: I was arrested for the first time during a demonstration related to Khaled Saeed on December 2, 2013. A six-month jail sentence was confirmed on May 20, 2014, for protesting, assaulting security forces and causing damages. I was arrested for the second time in 2015, during a protest in front of the Ittihadiya Palace, and I was sentenced to 15 months in prison, which I spent in Damanhour prison and Qanater prison, under the law on public assembly.
When I was arrested for the first time, Louay Kahwaji and Omr Hazek were also arrested for taking part in the demonstration. Islam Hasanein, a student who happened to be in the vicinity of the demonstration, was also arrested.
My parents asked me to flee the country and travel, but I had an ethical quandary about not letting Hasanein pay the price alone. Back then, he was a kid who provides for his family and would not be found innocent, even though he did not participate in the demonstration.
After serving my sentence, my protest and revolutionary activity were focused in Cairo, in order for me to be away a little bit from the Alexandria officers who know me. Yet after participating in the demonstration in front of the Ittihadiya Palace, in protest against confirming the decision to imprison the founders of the April 6 Movement, Ahmed Douma and Mohammed Adel, I was arrested once I set foot in Alexandria.
I was the only political prisoner in Damanhour prison in Alexandria, which prompted the head of the investigations unit to talk about equality between political and criminal prisoners. Then he ordered to move me to a cell for public funds offenders, which I thought was a cell for corrupt businessmen. Yet I found out that it is a cell for female inmates who have no provider.
Al-Monitor: How were you treated in prison?
Massry: The way I was treated depended on the mood of the head of the investigations unit. The number of prisoners was lower the first time, while it was higher the second time. The prison cell was small, ranging between 4 to 6 metres [13-20 feet], accommodating 18 female prisoners. Our number reached 30 prisoners sometimes. We had one bathroom, and our stuffs were hung to a nail inside the room. There were no beds in Damanhour prison, unlike the Qanater prison. The design of the political prisoners’ cell, which I entered along with others the second time, was very similar to al-Aqrab prison’s cells. They have no ventilation and water cuts were ongoing.
Al-Monitor: Did you do anything in response to these inhumane prison conditions?
Massry: Yes. I filed many complaints against water cuts, but the police commissioner took the issue personally. Yet the reasons behind the ongoing water cuts differed. At times, it was to punish the inmates, and sometimes it was due to financial problems between the Interior Ministry and the water authority. Someone had once explained that the prison administration resorts to this practice because the Damanhour prison is underground and when the water level rises many cells are flooded, which is logical for me. At the end of the day, the complaints were useless.
The medical negligence in Damanhour prison reached critical levels. We were subjected to verbal insults and bad words when asking for a physician by pounding on doors. One day, an inmate gave birth in the prison cell.
Also, let me tell you more about the real tragedies, which are mainly related to health issues in prison. Most of the inmates are vulnerable to many diseases, including bone diseases, given the lack of beds, and to infectious and intestinal diseases, given the unhealthy and rotten food most of the times.
Things are stricter at Qanater prison, where I was placed in the political prisoners’ cell, which was known as the ‘Brotherhood’s cell.’ The prison’s administration does not respond to the inmates’ demands. We went on a hunger strike to claim our rights, but they were not met. One day, a fire broke out in the cell and the administration did not assist us, because it was a holiday. We put it out by ourselves and two inmates were burned.
Al-Monitor: What about the law stipulating your rights, including the right to health?
Massry: Things in prison don’t go according to the law. Rather, they go according to the practice of the prison commissioner.
Al-Monitor: Did the regime try to suppress you in prison?
Massry: Things were kind of going fine with me in the Damanhour prison. The entry of books, the gazette and private newspapers such as Al-Masry Al-Youm and Al-Shorouk was permissible.
Once, during a cell inspection, which is one of the worst experiences, the officers came in to conduct a surprise inspection of the beds and all personal stuffs to forcibly take what they already allowed to enter the cell. This time, they discovered my personal notebook that includes my daily observations and is similar to my diary in prison. Fast forward, they called on me and demanded that I refrain from taking notes of facts that include accusations of the prison officers.
Al-Monitor: How was your relationship with the other female inmates?
Massry: The relationship evolved over time. They called me ‘the Brotherhood inmate’ in the beginning, as a general classification of any political prisoner. When the presidential elections were held and Abdel Fattah al-Sisi was elected, the prisoners had great hopes in the regime and the president. Their favorite song back then was ‘Tislam al-Ayadi ya Jeish Bladi’ [Blessed are your hands, my country’s army], which became famous after July 3, 2013.
Sisi’s mottos, which have not been implemented, had started to be put to the test and the arbitrary arrests were ongoing under the pretext of preserving [the country’s] security. Yet the security situation was not under control outside [prison].
Al-Monitor: Did you meet in prison any of those who had been subject to forced disappearance?
Massry: I met a number of forced disappeared persons in Qanater prison, including Hiba Rifaat, who is accused in the attorney general’s incident [assassination of Attorney General Hisham Barakat] and who remained disappeared until the state security services investigated with her and she was moved to Qanater prison, without her parents’ knowledge. I also met Sarah, who is accused in the bombing of the Embassy of Niger. They were tortured and threatened of being raped and of arresting their first-degree relatives, until they made false confessions.
Al-Monitor: How do you perceive the situation in the country’s politics now?
Massry: It is not excellent at present. The military regime has wreaked havoc across the country. Therefore, change has become difficult. There was no such oppression under the Brotherhood rule that I opposed, however.
Al-Monitor: In case the presidential elections are held in two years, will the revolutionary youth have their own candidate?
Massry: I can’t anticipate it. A period of two years is too long to predict the stance of the revolution’s youths or satisfaction of the current state with Sisi.